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Regular Town Commission Meeting of the Town of Ocean Ridge held on Monday, August 5, 2002 at 6:30 PM in the Town Hall Meeting Chambers

 The meeting was called to order by Mayor Kaleel and roll call was answered by the following:

             Commissioner Aaskov              Commissioner Bingham

            Commissioner Schulte               Commissioner Willens

                                                 Mayor Kaleel

 Pledge of Allegiance

 Additions, Deletions, Modifications and Approval of Agenda

 None

   CONSENT AGENDA

 Comm Willens requested to remove item #7 from the consent agenda and move it to item #20A.

 1.                  Minutes of Town Commission Meeting of July 1, 2002

2.                  Approval of Not to Exceed $21,800 for the purchase of new vehicle for the Town Manager as per employment agreement to be funded from the Contingency Account (existing vehicle will be auctioned in usual manner)

3.                  Appointment of Kathleen M. Dailey, Town Manager, as the alternate member to the South Lake Worth Inlet Advisory Committee

4.                  Ocean Ridge Resolution No. 2002-15;  Approving and Adopting the Renewal Dental Services Agreement with Oral Health Services

5.                  Approval of $4,510 for new office furniture for Town Manager and chairs for the Director’s Office to be funded from the Contingency Account (Based on the savings incurred during the transition of new Town Manager)

6.                  Authorize Agreement with Shalloway, Foy, Rayman & Newell, Inc. for a Water Supply and Treatment Options Report

8.         Request for Unity of Title to Join lot 4, Block 6, Amended Plat of Part of                                       Boynton’s Subdivision, and Lot 4A, Charles D Owens Subdivision for the                                         purpose of building a proposed principal residence on Lot 4A By: Thomas        Carney,                 attorney representing property owner Elizabeth Susskind

 Comm Schulte moved to approve the consent agenda as amended, seconded by Comm Aaskov.

 Motion carried - yea 5.

 Announcements

             9.         The administrative office will be closed Monday, September 3, 2002 for                                    the official holiday

             10.       The Tentative Budget Adoption and Regular Town Commission Meeting                                   will be held on Tuesday, September 10, 2002 commencing at 5:01 PM and                         regular meeting immediately to follow

 Mayor Kaleel read the above announcements.

 Public Comment

 Digby Bridges, 36 Sabal Island Drive , distributed pictures of his trash bins that BFI had placed on his vegetation.

 Mr. Bridges stated that he thinks the code should specify that only 1’ lift vibrating compactors can be used and the 4’ lifts should be disallowed. He stated that the big ones are already banned in Delray Beach and Palm Beach .

Mr. Bridges commented that he was not pleased with the Woolbright Road landscaping. He stated that the water is running at 2 PM which is the worst time for running water. He questioned who approved putting a well in that area to which Town Clerk Hancsak advised that the Town Commission approved putting in a well since the City of Boynton Beach at the time was not permitting any new commercial meters. Comm Aaskov stated that the Town Manager has stopped the project and is discussing it with the landscape architect and the County who approved the project.

Regarding the rights-of-way in Town, Mr. Bridges stated that the Town should abandon all those that are not useful e.g. the right-of-way south of Hudson Ave. with the exception of the portion that will effect the sewage/drainage of Pelican Cove. He suggested that the Town Hall renovation plans be put on hold until a decision is made regarding the right-of-way in front of Town Hall.

Mr. Bridges stated that the Town Engineer should review the building/drainage plans for the neighbor of the Swanks at 6200 N Ocean Blvd. to determine if a retaining wall is necessary.  He stated that he believes the Swank’s wall, which is a couple of feet within their property line, is about to burst on the Swank’s side.

Mr. Bridges concluded by suggesting that the Town Commission place a time limit on building in the new code revisions to which Town Clerk Hancsak advised it has already been incorporated into the draft.  

Public Hearings

11.       Application submitted by Randall Stofft Architects, 42 N. Swinton Ave., Suite 1, Delray Beach FL 33444, representing owner, Marsha Hill, requesting a variance from the provisions of the Buildings and Building Regulations, Article II, Technical Codes and other construction standards, Section 14-27, Floor Elevations, Sub-Paragraph (c) Maximum Elevation and the Land Development Code,  and a    development permit from the Land Development Code, Article VII; Coastal Construction Code, Section 26-108; Coastal construction and Excavation Setback Line; Sub-Paragraph (A); Setback line established; and Sub-Paragraph (h) Existing Structures to permit the construction of a new single family home, guest house and tiki hut, with a maximum finished floor elevation (FFE) of 22’6” which would extend approximately +/- 136’ east of the Coastal Construction Control Line (CCCL), and a pool and patio area extending approximately +/- 184’ east of the CCCL located at 6275 No. Ocean Blvd. or legally described as the North 101.08’ of South 270’ of Unnumbered Block Lying immediately north of Edith Street and east of Ocean blvd. in the Boynton Beach Park Subdivision 

 Town Clerk Hancsak read the above application by title. She advised that all fees had been paid and there has been no additional correspondence received.

Town Clerk Hancsak advised that Frank McKinney had requested and received a variance for a 23’ FFE on this parcel in September 2001 and that this latest request was for 6” lower.  She added that the applicant was also seeking approval for construction +/- 136’ east of the CCCL for the structures and +/- 184’ for the patio/pool.  

Atty Spillias swore in all who were giving testimony in any of the public hearings.

Comm Bingham stated that she did not want to approve any more of the higher FFE.

Comm Bingham moved to approve the request with a FFE of 21’. There was no second to this motion.

Randall Stofft, architect, stated that the houses on each side have a higher FFE than what they are requesting. He added that it does not make any sense to pick an arbitrary height such as 21’ which would require them to dig into the dune. He stated that it is a low profile house and will have low impact. Comm Bingham stated that she had a problem with massive houses cutting off the breeze to other homes. Comm Willens stated that the solution to Comm Bingham’s problem would be a change in the code. Atty Spillias stated that this is not a code issue, but rather a question of whether what they are proposing is consistent with the rest of the Town.

Comm Bingham moved to approve the variance request to build east of the CCCL, seconded by Comm Willens.

Marilyn Lundquist, 6277 N Ocean Blvd , questioned how far back the pool and patio would be to which Mr. Stofft advised that the request was for the maximum amount, but that it would more than likely extend the 184’ back as listed in the application.

Roll call was taken Comm Bingham’s motion.

Motion carried - yea 5.

Regarding the previous suggestion to lower the FFE to 21’, Town Clerk Hancsak stated that the State might frown upon the removal of dune to have a lower FFE. Mr. Stofft showed a diagram of the proposed house along with the house to the north and south which showed them all to be visually in line with each other.

Comm Schulte moved to approve the variance for FFE as submitted, seconded by Comm Willens.

There was no additional Town Commission or public comment.

Motion carried - yea 5.

12.       Application submitted by Randall Stofft Architects, 42 N. Swinton Ave., Suite 1, Delray Beach FL 33444, representing the owner, William Duffey, requesting a development permit from the provisions of the Land Development code, Article VII; COASTAL CONSTRUCTION CODE, Section 26-108; Coastal construction and excavation setback line; Sub-Paragraph (a); Setback line established; and Sub-Paragraph (h) Existing Structures to permit the construction of a single family home, after demolishing the existing home, that would extend approximately 30’ east of the CCCL located at 6103 North Ocean Blvd. or legally described as Lot 5 and the North half of Lot 6, Block 9, Amended Plat of Boynton Subdivision (exact description available for review in the Clerk’s Office)

 Town Clerk Hancsak read the above application by title. She advised that all fees had been paid and there has been no additional correspondence received.

Mayor Kaleel advised that this request was only for construction east of the CCCL.

Comm Willens moved to approve the variance request as submitted, seconded by Comm Aaskov.

Comm Bingham stated that she would like to see the Gumbo Limbo trees on this property protected, if possible.

Earl Jones, 14 Sailfish Lane, stated that he was concerned that the applicants were using Old Ocean Blvd as their address so that they would be able to use the higher elevation of Old Ocean vs N Ocean in their calculations. He stated that this will cause the house to bury other lots on the street and it will be higher and filled. He added that this would cause massive flooding. Mr. Stofft stated that they would not be filling the lots, but rather keeping them very close to the existing grade. He stated that there is an entrance to the  house off of Old Ocean Blvd , but that there is a step down garage to the N Ocean Blvd. height. Town Clerk Hancsak advised that the code requires the use of the crown of the highest road abutting the property be used in the calculation so the applicant had no choice but to use Old Ocean Blvd.

Roll call was taken on Comm Willens’ motion.

Motion carried - yea 5.

13.       Application submitted by Randall Stofft Architects, 42 N. Swinton Ave., Suite 1, Delray Beach FL 33444, representing the owner, William Duffey, requesting a development permit from the provisions of the Land Development code, Article VII; COASTAL CONSTRUCTION CODE, Section 26-108; Coastal construction and excavation setback line; Sub-Paragraph (a); Setback line established; and Sub-Paragraph (h) Existing Structures to permit the construction of a single family home that would extend approximately 28’2” east of the CCCL located at 6102 North Ocean Blvd. or legally described as Lot 7 and the South half of Lot 6, Block 9, Amended Plat of Boynton Subdivision (exact description available for review in the Clerk’s Office)

Town Clerk Hancsak read the above application by title. She advised that all fees had been paid and there has been no additional correspondence received.

Comm Willens moved to approve the variance as submitted, seconded by Comm Aaskov.

Mayor Kaleel questioned that the drainage would be reviewed by the Town Engineer prior to being permitted by the Town to which Mr. Stofft advised that it would.

Doug Olbrich, 6079 N Ocean Blvd. , stated that he was concerned with the fill that will be brought onto the lot to which Mr. Stofft advised that their intent is not to fill the lot and only use as little as possible to grade the lot.

Roll call was taken on Comm Willens’ motion.

Motion carried - yea 5.

14.       Application submitted by Susan and Jerry Miller, 1640 Lawrence Ave., #101, Toronto, Ontario, M6L1C6, requesting a variance from the provisions of the Buildings and Building Regulations, Article II, Technical Codes and other construction standards, Section 14-27, Floor Elevations, Sub-Paragraph (a)(3) Maximum Finished Floor Elevation (FFE) Shall be no Higher than 1’ above the established minimum FFE, Sub-Paragraph (a)(5) Garages are not prohibited provided that all enclosed areas shall have a minimum FFE of not less than 8’ above zero elevation and no artificial filling of land is used to create same and the Land Development, Article VII; Coastal Construction Code, Section 26-108; Coastal construction and Excavation Setback Line; Sub-Paragraph (A); Setback line established to permit the construction of a new single family home, with a maximum finished floor elevation of 17.3’ and the garage with a floor elevation of 7.3’, pool/patio area which would extend approximately +/- 71’ for the structure and +/- 80’ for the pool/patio east of the CCCL located at 33 Hersey Drive (extreme northeast end of Hersey Dr.) or legally described as Lot “A” (less the southerly 95’) and Lot “B” (less the southerly 95’) of Shoreview Subdivision (exact legal description available in the Clerk’s Office). 

 Town Clerk Hancsak read the above application by title. She advised that all fees had been paid and there has been no additional correspondence received.

Town Clerk Hancsak explained that this application is similar to the Pugliese variance at 35 Hersey Drive and that the application was submitted before Resolution No. 2002-17 was passed at the previous meeting.

Mr. Stofft stated that the FFE is based upon 100 year storm data and that this is essentially a single story house. Mayor Kaleel questioned if there is going to be a slab in the garage to which Mr. Stofft replied that it was not their intent to slab the garage and that anything slabbed would be included in the FAR. Town Clerk Hancsak advised that the maximum height currently being proposed is 35’6” which is within the code.

Comm Willens moved to approve the request in regards to construction east of the CCCL and that any slabbed area on the base level be included in the FAR, seconded by Comm Bingham.

There was no additional comment.

Motion carried - yea 5.

Comm Bingham moved to approve the request in regards to the FFE per the staff recommendation (the staff furthermore recommends approval of the applicant’s request for a variance for a garage at a grade of 7 feet 3 inches graduating to the base level entry at 7 feet 9 inches conditioned on the filing of a Hold Harmless Agreement and staff also recommends that prior to the issuance of any building permit that a Unity of Title be recorded joining Lot “A” and Lot “B” so that no portion of the lot can be sold independently in the future after it has been utilized for additional lot area), seconded by Comm Willens.

Comm Schulte questioned why a hold harmless is required to which Atty Spillias advised that it was to protect the Town if there are flooding problems on a property which is built below the recommended FFE. Mr. Stofft stated that the State has given 15.62’ as the minimum for the FFE and the builder needs an additional 2’ for the slab which is why the request is for 17.3’.

Town Clerk Hancsak advised that the motion includes a unity of title for the properties.

Mr. Jones stated that he felt this plan was a better solution than bringing in fill.

Roll call was taken on Comm Bingham’s motion.

Motion carried - yea 5.

Regular Agenda

Actions and Reports

            15.       Update on Stormwater Drainage Improvements By: Lisa Tropepe, Town Engineer

Ms. Tropepe advised that the permit for Hudson Ave. and the south phase has been approved by DOT and they are now waiting for approval from SFWMD. She stated that they would be able to get bids from contractors. She advised that the Town has received two Lake Worth Lagoon Grants totaling $890,000.

Ms. Tropepe stated that the Town is now getting proactive in the area of the drainage for new construction and that residents should be prepared for all swales and proper drainage to be checked.

Ms. Tropepe concluded that the Town is also getting pro-active about fixing the lines which are discovered to need it as a result of the TVing and cleaning of the pipes.

Mayor Kaleel stated that he believed Ms. Tropepe and Shalloway, Foy, Rayman & Newell were doing a tremendous job for the Town.

            16.       Request for Petition for order reducing code enforcement order/fine in connection with Lot 32, 33 and 44 Inlet Cay Subdivision

Town Clerk Hancsak gave a brief overview of the events leading up to the current fine on the property. She stated that the staff does not recommend any reduction in the lien as the owner did not pay the administrative fees from the code enforcement hearing for 111 days or make an attempt to satisfy the lien since the last denial for lien reduction on May 7, 2001 .

Peter Weintraub, attorney representing Carl Forbes, stated that he is aware that this property has been a blight on the Town for a long time and that if this lien is reduced and the unity of title is terminated, a house will be built on Lot 44 and it will look much better. He stated that Atty Spillias has told him that the lien is gone against Lots 32 and 33 due to the foreclosure on those properties and the Town Commission would need to consider how much of the lien should go against Lot 44. He stated that he had two propositions, the first being a 2/3 reduction of the fine and the second being a 90% reduction which would still give the Town approximately $3,000.

Atty Spillias suggested that the Town Commission consider items #16 and #17 together.

            17.       Request for petition to sever/terminate unity of title covenant for Lot 44 from Lot 32 and 33 Inlet Cay Subdivision

Atty Spillias advised that the original unity of title was put in place so that a dock could be placed on Lot 44. The owner mortgaged Lots 32 and 33 separately from a mortgage on Lot 44. One of the lenders with interest in Lots 32 and 33 filed for foreclosure and purchased the property. He stated that the lien is wiped out for Lots 32 and 33 in regards to that new owner. He stated that the foreclosure has not yet been heard in regards to the case against Lot 44. He stated that there is currently an investigation into all three of these parcels. He cautioned that before any release is done, it must be certain that it will not interfere with the investigation.

Mr. Weintraub stated that he knows the Town Commission would make the release of unity of title conditional upon the removal of the dock and his client to purchase the lot has a contractor ready to do this. Atty Spillias questioned if his client would be willing to give indemnification against any claim against the Town simply by the action of the release of the unity of title.

Mayor Kaleel stated that he did not believe the Town Commission is in a position to vote until Atty Spillias gives an opinion on the Town’s liability in this action.

Comm Willens moved to postpone items #16 and #17 until the September 10, 2002 meeting, seconded by Comm Aaskov.

Motion carried - yea 5.

Mr. Weintraub stated that his client has a deadline before that date regarding the purchase of the property, but that he believes he can get an extension. He added that he would like to know what the feeling is of the Town Commission on the requests. Atty Spillias stated that the Town Commission has been willing to release the unity of title in the past when certain requirements are met and that he has negotiated lien reductions in the past. Mayor Kaleel stated that he did not feel the Town Commission would be in favor of reducing the lien.

David Berger, 45 Bimini Cove Drive , stated that he was not in favor of any lien reduction.

            18.       Discuss Sivitilli v. Ocean Ridge Litigation and request for scheduling executive session By: Kenneth Spillias, Town Attorney

Comm Aaskov stated that she would not be involved in this discussion due to a conflict. Town Clerk Hancsak advised that she would have a voter’s conflict sign available for her to sign.

Atty Spillias advised that he was requesting an executive session to discuss the settlement of the litigation.

Comm Willens moved to have the meeting at 8AM on Friday, August 9, 2002 , seconded by Comm Bingham.

Motion carried - yea 4.

            19.       Award of proposal for clearing David Lane By: Kathleen Dailey, Town Manager 

Town Manager Dailey advised that the proposal would include removal of all vegetation, concrete pads and other materials to make 10’ available for access. She stated that the staff recommends awarding the proposal to the companies outlined in her memo in an amount not to exceed $12,360 from the contingency fund.

Comm Schulte removed himself from the discussion due to his conflict on this issue. Town Clerk Hancsak advised that she would have a voter’s conflict form prepared for his signature.

Comm Willens moved to award authorization for the clearing of David Lane to companies outlined in the Town Manager’s memo in an amount not to exceed $12,360 from the contingency funds. There was no second to this motion.

Atty Spillias advised that Judge Rapp has currently entered a final decision on this issue. He stated that Mr. Katz’ 10’ now belongs to the Town and Mr. Katz has not filed for any appeal of this decision. He explained that the 10’ over the Olanoff’s property is public meaning that the public has a right to use it. He stated that on August 16, Judge Rapp will discuss a new hearing. He stated that part of the order was to clear Katz’ property and it is a valid effective order as of right now. He stated that he did not think the Town would face any significant liability if they proceeded now with the order.

Mayor Kaleel questioned if the Town Commission could approve the money now and then not proceed until after the decision on the 16th to which Atty Spillias stated that he did not want Judge Rapp to think the Town was delaying its duty set forth in the decision. Comm Willens stated that he did not see how the Town could not proceed.

Comm Willens moved to award the proposal as outlined, but not to contract the work to begin until after August 16th, seconded by Comm Aaskov.

Motion carried - yea 4.

Atty Spillias explained that if the judgment remains the same, the Town will move forward with the construction and if the judgment effects the original decision, he will bring the issue back in front of the Town Commission.

            20a.     Authorize extension of landscaping maintenance contract with Vila & Son Landscaping Corp. for one year term at the same rate and authorize staff to re-bid during year if deemed necessary (previously agenda item #7)

Comm Willens commented that given the fact that information was provided of unsatisfactory service was provided, the Town Manager should be authorized to negotiate a new contract.

Town Manager Dailey stated that she would like to re-evaluate Vila & Sons, but reserve the right to give the contract to another company at the same price if she is not satisfied. She advised that if the Town Commission wants to add to the responsibilities that Vila & Sons currently have that they would have to allow for her to renew the contract with additional amount for an hourly rate for the new responsibilities.

Comm Schulte moved to give the Town Manager the power to negotiate with Vila & Son or another contractor at the same rate as the current contract, seconded by Comm Bingham.

Motion carried - yea 5.

It was decided by the Town Commission to move item #20 to Town Commission Comments.

Resolutions

            None

First Reading of Ordinances

            21.       Ordinance No. 538; Amending the Code of Ordinances at Chapter 62, Waterways, at Article I, Section 62-1 adding the definition of the term vehicle, and at Article II, Beaches, Section 62-27, declaring the stopping, standing, parking or operation of any motor vehicle or vehicle upon the ocean beaches or the banks and dunes adjacent thereto within the limits of the Town as a nuisance per se, adding the term vehicle to the list of prohibitions, and Section 62-27 adding the term motor vehicle

Mayor Kaleel read Ordinance No. 538 by title only.

Comm Willens moved to approve Ordinance No. 538 on first reading, seconded by Comm Aaskov.

Mayor Kaleel explained that the Town Commission was trying to prohibit vehicles on the beach such as parasails.

Lothar Mayer, 6009 Old Ocean Blvd. , questioned if the vehicles driven by the turtle people was exempt to which Mayor Kaleel stated that vehicles authorized by the government or government vehicles are exempt.

Mr. Jones questioned if he could park a boat on the beach to let someone off of it to which Mayor Kaleel advised that was not the intent adding that the motorized part of the boat would not be on the beach if he was just letting someone out.

Rich Lucibella, 5 Beachway N, stated that the Town was enacting the “fun police” with this ordinance adding that he has never had a problem with parasails.

Bruce Gimmy, 12 Ocean Ave., questioned why the ordinance could not just single out parasails to which Atty Spillias stated that it would be a liability to single out one thing. Mr. Gimmy stated that he did not believe they should be stopped.

Jim Vecchione, 6306 N Ocean Blvd. , questioned if the ordinance could read that the parasails are only permitted over the water and not the beach to which Comm Schulte advised that the Town could only control where they take off and land, but not where they fly. Mayor Kaleel advised that Ocean Ridge is not the only municipality passing this type of ordinance.

Roll call was taken on Comm Willens’ motion.

Motion carried – yea 3 (Aaskov, Willens, Kaleel)

                            nay 2 (Bingham, Schulte)

Second Reading , Public Hearing and Adoption of Ordinances

            None

Town Commission Comments

            20.       Discuss Rights-of-way located in Town By: Mayor Kaleel

Mayor Kaleel stated that he felt the Town needed to make a decision on the rights-of-way adding that he felt some of them should be given to the residents. He suggested that the issue be given to the Planning and Zoning Commission one more time and that if they decide to keep a right-of-way, they would need to come up with a plan of what to do and the related costs.

Comm Bingham stated that she disagreed with giving any of the rights-of-way to residents adding that it is public property and should be able to be used by all the public. She stated that if residents can have an alley behind their homes and put their garages in the back, the front exposure of the residences will look much better.

Comm Willens moved that the Planning and Zoning Commission develop a comprehensive plan for all the rights-of-way in Town to be given to the Town Commission no later than April 15, 2003 to include estimated costs for a multi-year clearing and ongoing maintenance, lighting, and DPS patrol and also to include that the Town may grant a twelve month license for the resident to use the property, seconded by Comm Aaskov.

Mayor Kaleel stated that he agreed with developing a plan adding that he believed it could be done in a few months, but that he did not agree with the licensing part of Comm Willens’ motion.  Atty Spillias advised that the Town already has the authority to give licenses for the rights-of-way.

Comm Willens and Comm Aaskov withdrew their motion and second, respectively.

Comm Willens moved that the Planning and Zoning Commission develop a comprehensive plan for use of the Town’s rights-of-way to be given to the Town Commission by December 15, 2002 to include a multi-year plan for clearing any rights-of-way including costs for clearing, maintenance, lighting and public safety, seconded by Comm Aaskov.

Atty Spillias stated that there is a distinction between the rights-of-way that are improved and homeowners planting in the unimproved portion to ones that are behind homes and will never be used as a road.

Roll call was taken on Comm Willens’ motion.

Motion carried - yea 5.

Justus Brown, 39 Coconut Lane , stated that all but one resident on the north side of Ocean Ave and the south side of Coconut Lane wanted the abandonment of the right-of-way. He stated that the Town would not need to spend any money on this when the residents could clean up their own back yards adding that he does not want a road in his back yard.

Mr. Vecchione stated that he thought the Town Commission was supposed to be determining these on a case by case basis. He stated that he did not believe Mr. Gimmy should be involved with the Planning and Zoning Commission (of which Mr. Gimmy is the Chairperson) during these new discussions since he is the one resident holding out in the situation that Mr. Brown was speaking of.

Betty Kelso, 16 Sailfish Lane , stated that she thought it interesting that the Town Commission did not allow public comment on Item #19 and that the Town Commission believed that the Planning and Zoning Commission would come up with a grand plan regarding the rights-of-way when they (the Town Commission) could not even vote to follow a court order.

Corey Heith, 7 Hudson Ave. , stated that he was concerned over any plan to open the right-of-way behind his property. He added that he did not know how there could be any serious discussion over this option.

Richard Levenstein, attorney representing Mr. and Mrs. Morrison of 2 Coconut Lane , stated that he thought the Town Commission would have a uniform policy approach on this matter. He stated that his clients have been singled out because of a problem of Mr. Gimmy’s which was on the June Agenda. He stated that they are now involved in a code enforcement hearing for August 28th while the Town Commission is still deciding on a plan. He commented that every fence in a right-of-way is in the same position as his clients although only his clients are being singled out.

Mr. Gimmy stated that he specifically wants Florida Power & Light to be able to get to the transformer behind his house. He added that there is also an existing well on the NW corner of his property that he can not reactivate since a truck can not get back to repair it. He concluded that the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended to open all rights-of-way 3 ½ years ago. Comm Bingham stated that there are lots of transformers in these rights-of-way.

George Bierlin, 26 Hudson Ave , stated that while he lives near 600’ of mangroves, Bell South put a whole cable in for his residence laying it all by hand with no need for a truck. He added that he also did not feel that Mr. Gimmy should be involved in the discussion of rights-of-way with the Planning and Zoning Commission.

Adjournment

The meeting was adjourned at 8:55 PM .